The design is based on the WWI Webley MKIII* brass flare pistols of the same period however, this pair have much longer barrel extensions measuring 6.5 inches with the overall barrel length being 9 inches. Schermuly surmised that to remedy these short-comings, a lifeline could instead be fired from the vessel. I have 2 of these for sale, both in used but good well looked after condition. The flare gun launcher fit the bill. This riot gun is one of several patterns which have seen service with the British Army, most notably during the 'Troubles' in Northern Ireland. When water-based transportation and shipping was so prevalent and important, the impact of his life saving devices cannot be overlooked, no matter how easy it may be do so in a modern world where that technology has largely been replaced. Payment Methods: Schermuly Pistol Rocket Line Thrower Description: Excellent condition Fully Operational Schermuly Line Thrower Rocket apparatus. Made by Schermuly on a brass framed signal (flare) pistol No.1 Mk III* with the addition of a steel barrel and handle. D 1501. SERIAL NUMBER 21701. William Schermuly 1857-1929 was one of the fathers of modern rocketry. Zappa himself stated (perhaps in The Real Frank Zappa Book? Your last viewed and saved ads will appear here, Your last viewed and saved searches will appear here, Please select a location from the drop-down list. Sn 18196: 30 - 18196: 30 International Military Antiques, Inc observes all Federal, State and Local laws. I think this just muddies the waters. In the nearly half-century prior, ships that had foundered or run aground had very few options. Excellent bore. This is a Schermuly type life saving line throwing gun which uses a small pistol type launcher firing a stubby impulse-ignition cartridge. Before firing, a rocket motor with an attached wire frame sticking back for attachment of the line is inserted in the muzzle. The pistol is based on the Webley & Scott brass flare pistol, with a steel barrel extension to take a rocket that would propel a wire over distance. Suggest it be merged in to Frank Zappa with a link from here?Billlion (talk) 08:39, 2 May 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply], Given the generic nature of the page subject, is it appropriate to highlight this one historical incident so prominently? Ruger 10-22 DSP SP classic .22LR semi automatic sporting rifle. Kite launching rockets deployed emergency radio aerial antennae. Price for Kilgore GR-52 line throwing pistol and one fired case is $265.00 (View Picture). 12/7/2022, Books for Gebr.R\' Gebruder Rempt Suhl. A handsome example of the classic military single shot flintlock pistol, albeit lacking specific identification. Made by Schermuly on a brass framed signal (flare) pistol No.1 Mk III* with the addition of a steel barrel and handle. 1 Mark III flare signal pistol marked SPRA for the Schermuly Pyrotechnic Rocket Association on the frame and commercial crown proofs on the barrel. Discussion in 'Fireworks Nostalgia, Collectables And History' started by Crouchy, Aug 4, 2020. (maritime distress flares in the UK are fired from a hand-held tube, a little like a "roman candle" firework) --Canthusus 15:07, 14 October 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply], Does anyone know the difference between how a firearm operates vs how a flare gun operates. Gun magazine laws, concealed weapons laws, laws governing new made display guns, airsoft guns, blank fire guns, and other items vary greatly by nation, state and locality. All Images and Text Copyright 2003-2023 International Military Antiques Inc. All Rights Reserved. However, it is ultimately the responsibility of the buyer to be in compliance of laws that govern their specific location. A team of volunteer surf men sometimes had only hours to arrive on scene, often during nightmarish weather conditions, and perform a sea rescue from the beach. If you do not have a C&R FFL, then we can only ship guns made after 1898 to Schermuly made similar devices for three different sizes of rockets, 30mm, 41mm or 50mm diameter, although all used the same 1 inch (25mm) ignition-ipulse cartridges. To order Call 01547 529093 or 05603 416575 or email sales@deactivated-guns.co.uk. M37A2 double red star (3); M38A1 double yellow star (1); M38A2 double yellow star (2); M39A2 double green star (1); M43A1 single red star (1); M43A2 single red star (2); M45A2 single green star (2); M53A2 yellow tracer-yellow star and red star (1); M57A1 red tracer double red star (1); M57A2 red tracer double red star (2). Use on personal social media accounts, provided the individuals are not promoting themselves commercially. Sn:5636. A short wire leader is attached to the U-frame and the shot line is attached to the wire, keeping it far enough from the rocket exhaust to avoid being burned. 4/7/2023, Collectors The Schermuly Pistol Rocket Apparatus by Joel R Kolander. Named for their inventor, West Point and MIT graduate First Lieutenant David A. Lyle, these guns were heavy, experienced massive recoil, and used a special type of blackpowder, making them a welcome rescue tool though difficult and cumbersome to use. By placing an order, the buyer represents that he/she is in compliance with the law and will utilize the items in a lawful manner. a FFL dealer in your area. Category Other Guns. The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.194.127.112 (talk contribs) . Schermuly also developed a way to better lay the line inside the case (called flaking the line) so that it would feed more easily and reliably while taking up less space. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Mechanically good, and in original flint, not a reconversion. Product Information This is an extremely rare WWI Schermuly flare pistol fitted with an extra long barrel extension. Breech end of the barrel has British Broad Arrow property marking ink stamped, so this was likely used by the Royal Navy or RNLI, probably circa WW2 to 1970s. Original Items: Only one set available. Webley Schermuly 12bore Single Shot Flare Pistol (R/H) - S/H (1) S/H Shetland Trade Seller 1 1/2 Flare pistol with proofed 12g adaptor used for firing bird scaring cartridges. Named for their inventor, West Point and MIT graduate First Lieutenant David A. Lyle, these guns were heavy, experienced massive recoil, and used a special type of blackpowder, making them a welcome rescue tool though difficult and cumbersome to use. However, a gun also introduced recoil, a bad thing on the deck of a wet ship, and to achieve a distance equal to that of a rocket required a massive powder charge that often risked breaking the line. Gunbroker has an interesting flare gun/line thrower for auction. Thompson, C. R. (1946). At this point, flare guns are still mostly modestly priced, and remain an attractive collecting field with few regulations and a good variety of items. after 1898 can only be shipped to someone with a Federal Firearms License (FFL). This item is completely legal within the USA. This period of numerous rejections and disinterest, he dubbed, his heartbreak years. Eventually, early adopters began to step forward. Schermuly made them from the 1920s up British WW1 1916 Dated Brass 1" MK III Trench Flare / Signal Pistol By Cogswell & Harrison London. Fun bit of kit, best not to fire them when wearing synthetic gloves though, as I discovered the hard way! After leaving his career as a seamen in 1880 he set about saving the lives of seamen, he was often quoted as saying; Lost ships can be replaced but lives are gone forever. Both are still in fabulous condition and in perfect working order. This piece bears the inventor's name and patt No 503324. Twenty-two different shipping lines were using his rockets, and by 1929, the Merchant Shipping Act mandated that Every British ship exceeding five hundred tons when going to sea from any port in the United Kingdom shall be provided with a line-throwing appliance approved by the Board of Trade. Nineteen days later, Schermuly died. *UK 2017 DEACTIVATION CERTIFICATED*. To meet demand Schermuly brought his three grown sons into the business. His first observations involved the surf crews and their inherent faults. The pistol barrel has an extra handle to steady the gun when firing. D 1439. WW1 Imperial German Army Hebel 27mm Trench Flare/ Signal Pistol. You can unsubscribe at any time. The entire lot for only $95.00 (View Picture), 22157 RED FLARE PARACHUTE SIGNAL- KILGORE #52 - P52 PISTOL PROJECTED PARACHUTE RED FLARE DISTRESS SIGNAL APPROVED BY U.S. COAST GUARD 160.024/2/4, manufactured by the Kilgore Dorporation, Toone, TN, division of International Flare Signal . is ink stamped on the thin aluminum case of the flare signal The short aluminum cartridge case headstamp identifies the maker and patent info along with date of March 1989, and expiration date of September 1992 is ink stamped on side. 4/7/2023, Handguns When fired, the impulse ignition cartridge flash ignites the rocket motor and kicks the rocket out on its way. Despite being given a stiff ignoring by the Admiralty Subcategory Flare . 10/25/2022 This is a pair of extremely rare WWI Schermuly flare pistols fitted with extra long barrel extensions. To be rescued, one would pray they had just beached next to a town with such a crew that was also equipped with a Lyle gun. If you have a Curio & Relic FFL, we can ship items considered by the BATF 20069. Search Prices: British Pounds, Arundel Militaria. Also send me selected promotions from trusted 3rd parties. JC Militaria Ltd. 3 photos. D 1460 - D Flare Pistol 26. As an aside, anyone who has ever fired a 1" pistol will know that the recoil would rip that small stud off (there is only one BTW) after one or two shots. OUT OF STOCK- OUT OF PRINT- LOOK ON USED BOOK LISTS- WORTH THE SEARCH! The compact system could project a half inch line up to three quarters of a mile away. Besides, ship-borne lifesaving devices could also be used from ship to ship while at sea. Overall excellent condition. This is a 37mm cartridge with the case about 1 1/8 long and overall length of 7 1/8. Finally, he came up with a design that was small, easily aimed and fired, accurate and simple to use the Schermuly Rocket Pistol Apparatus. A tremendous swimmer, a fighter, and an adventurous spirit, the man did not lack for courage, nor the vocabulary of an old salt, once describing himself as an old blue water windjammer shellback (translation: a sailor who went out into deep ocean on the largest sailing cargo ships and crossed the equator). These would include the No. Made in a pistol form, it was a smaller, lighter, simpler form of a line thrower allowing them to be used more widely and practically. This Line Throwing gun is in Great condition, as HOME GUNS FOR SALE Browse Categories Used Guns For Sale Rifles For Sale Shotguns For Sale fired a short blank cartridge which ejected the rocket, the rocket then ignited and propelled the line to the target ship, shore or person in distress. This would probably clean up with some steel wool and WD-40. INVENTED BY WILLIAM SCHERMULY BORN IN 1847 AND DIED IN 1929 . 3 photos new British 1917 Dated WWI Webley & Scott 'No2-MkI' Flare/Signal Pistol. The compact system could project a half inch line up to three quarters of a mile away. Light to moderate wear throughout. Hebel 27mm Trench Flare/ Signal Pistol By \'Gebr.R\' Gebruder Rempt Suhl. Flare/Very/signal Pistol for Sale 15 results View all Flare/Very/signal Pistol Other Guns for sale all over the UK, in areas such as North West, Eastern, South East Create email alert Sort by 3 photos Kayaba Kogyo Company Type 90 28 mm Flare/Very/signal Pistol Category Other Guns Subcategory Flare/Very/signa. Personal use for non-commercial research and private study and other uses under the UKs exceptions to copyright and those exceptions to copyright in place where the user is located. (ten boxes are shown in place to illustrate the proper packing layout, but are NOT included). WW1 Schermulys Trench Flare Pistol. Schermuly also developed a way to better lay the line inside the case (called flaking the line) so that it would feed more easily and reliably while taking up less space. The basic concept was invented by Richard Schermuly, a British seaman and inventor around the beginning of the 20th century. If you don't have e-mail click WW2 Type 90 Japanese Naval DOUBLE Barrelled Flare / Signal pistol. This example shows the commerical proofs on the barrel and the crown 1S79 British Gov inspectors mark . 2. This product is not available for international shipping. Return to Collectors This is on the same page as a good sketch of the item. By 1926, the Schermuly Pistol Rocket Appartus, Ltd. took form, and the family business could now produce their own device to their own satisfaction. A line firing gun, as opposed to a rocket, would take care of many of his issues: it fired instantaneously and made aiming easier, its projectiles would be less effected by wind and less prone to water damage. During the Great War, the Canadian Army even began using them to throw telephone lines from trench to trench to avoid exposing troops to enemy fire. Obviously there was room for improvement, and that was not lost upon William Schermuly a former seaman who was later quite involved in the pioneering of modern rocketry. It is a terrifying thought to be so close to shore, but trapped aboard a ship disintegrating with every crash of the waves. This is an old English made Schermuly Line Throwing Gun. Antique Handguns (pre-1899), 17864 FRENCH/BELGIAN FLINTLOCK MILITARY PISTOL CIRCA 1800-1830 - This has the Belgian ELG in oval proof mark on the .69 caliber smoothbore barrel, eight inches long, along with a small crown over LF on the left flat. Schermulys invention didnt just disappear with the glory days of the British Empire. Schermuly made similar devices for three different sizes of rockets, 30mm, 41mm . WW2 1944 U. S. Navy Sedgley MK IV 37mm Flare/ Signal Pistol. The Schermuly system saved countless lives at sea. This is unlikely to have been a Very pistol, given the location it was probably a moutain rescue flare gun (a far simpler device), but it definitely wasn't a simple hand-held flare. information about ordering firearms from us! Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This is an old English made Schermuly Line Throwing Gun. 1 Mark III flare signal pistol marked SPRA for the Schermuly Pyrotechnic Rocket Association on the frame and commercial crown proofs on the barrel. Bargain His invention was usually ignored by the Admiralty, but by 1922 was used by 22 leading shipping lines. William Schermuly 1857-1929 was one of the fathers of modern rocketry. Very scarce and no information found after a diligent search of everything I could think of. 1. Robert Shackleton outfitted one on the Endurance, and other famous explorers gave their glowing endorsements. Model Rocket flare fir. 3/9/2023, US Militaria After all, aiming for shore requires much less precision than aiming for a boat, and lines fired inland might even be aided by the wind and enjoy a greater range. NO FFL required. 245 US$306/278 Verey 1 inch Single Shot Flare Pistol (R/H) - S/H (6) S/H Buckinghamshire This example shows a 1 5/8" bore in the 13" barrel. Also included is the tin case which measures approximately 19" x 7" x 25" which is complete with 4 unopened boxes of 250 1/2 inch line, 4 deactivated rockets, original instruction label and more! His rockets would propel grapnel hooks, which were used by U.S. Rangers on D-Day. You can embed or download low-resolution images free of charge for private and non-commercial use under the IWM Non-Commercial Licence. William Schermuly's previous line throwing inventions were pretty bulky and he wanted to perfect a device which a child could use. One of those guns that isnt unusual in its appearance, yet performs its task in an unusual manner is the Schermuly Line Throwing gun. What is the difference in the "process"? If you have any questions regarding this item, you should contact the Seller before bidding. Please see our. Important tools, etc on our parts page Buy Webley Schermuly Multi-Purpose Anti-Riot Flare Gun Launcher (Bossk Blaster): GunBroker is the largest seller of Other Collectible Guns Collectible Firearms All: 907616996. 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